A continued discussion of intelligence and laziness - what your thoughts on high IQ,?
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"Concurred. My IQ generally measures 150-170 on online tests (I know they're not accurate, let me finish). I'm getting a MENSA test in 4 weeks to confirm it. I got in the top 0.1% of the population aged 6, 11 & 16 (now) and my reading & arithmetic at age 11 were that of an average 18 year old. However, I'm a lazy fuck. I don't show working when I need to. I dont take notes because "I'll be fine" and I generally don't put in any effort. I've had some nasty grades due to just not trying, which made me try a tad harder, but in general I still do not try much because I don't need to. I've been told I was bright since I can remember, so I've assumed it, and just let myself get things right, rather than trying to get it right. I'm starting to learn how to actually put in work and effort now, but I always failed at subjects such as Art because I didn't have the patience needed. If I couldn't do it straight away (like math) then it didn't interest me so I didn't try. "
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"As someone with a high IQ, I find that IQ scores really don't matter much. It seems to me that it only measures a small area of what we would normally call "intelligence". For example, I can spot patterns and memorize information easily, but I can't usually figure out how to use simple day-to-day machines (washing machines, that sort of thing) without having been shown first. I feel like I'm good at IQ tests rather than actually being very intelligent. "
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"I am in Mensa and, to quote Peter Gibbons, "It's not that I'm lazy. I just don't care." I never had to really try in school, so I was just bored all the time. Plus, I never really learned to work hard or study. When I went to college for engineering, it took actual effort, so I switched majors. I don't make as much money, but it is more than enough and I don't have to work hard. I wish that I had gone to a larger school that had a gifted program. Who knows what making me try then would have done to my work ethic. "
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The worst decision makers and socializers I have met have had IQ's > 130, and they let you know how smart they were. The best decision makers I have met have been on the low/average side as evidenced by academics, but were easier to relate to and socialize with.
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I have a high intelligence, which has actually been clinincally tested. I believe that some highly intelligent people are lazy, because they feel that they don't have to work hard at anything. I am in college at the moment and since I was a kid I always had to deal with people who believe that because I don't spend HOURS studying for school that I think that I am a better person. While it is true that I don't study, I find that if I don't stimulate my brain on a daily basis I get bored. I would not consider myself lazy because I am constantly challenging myself. So while I grew up not having to work hard at anything that has to do with intelligence I still am a hard worker
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I was about to make a post about my education history but fuck this, the Dutch education system is too difficult to explain.
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There's a related issue that may be worth bringing up: Intelligence has over time apparently increased. This is true by a variety of metrics, but one sees it very strongly with IQ: Essentially, they've had to repeatedly renormalize the IQ tests so that the average stayed at 100. This is known as the Flynn effect. There are a lot of different hypotheses to try to explain this result, but it is quite robust. One explanation is that parasite load in childhood has gone down and that lots of parasites makes for stupider people. Similarly, improved childhood nutrition has also been cited. There's also some argument that it is more about societal changes in terms of how we teach children to think (Steven Pinker is fond of this last explanation).
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"I'm "smart" I suppose, and I can pass a Mensa test, but I always like to challenge myself. I slacked off until about mid way through my junior year of high school. Then I realized that while I may not be challenged at school, I could challenge myself, and I began taking the opportunity of having free time from school work to study things I was interested in. A lot of my friends are what you described though. "
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I agree. Though I also think that it has a lot to do with your upbringing and therefore your mentality to work. If you are stimulated to work hard by your family at a young age then it will be unlikely that you will turn lazy, whatever your intelligence-rate.
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